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Aug 22, 2023Liked by Peter N Limberg

I resonate with the idea of detaching from identities, and yet I'm also noticing how holding onto identities seems essential to finding community. ("Ah, you're a person who loves Stoicism too? We should hang out.") Don't we need *some* identifiers to belong in a commons? My sense is that there's some sort of middle way here.

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Aug 23, 2023·edited Aug 23, 2023Author

Robert Jay Lifton and Hans-Georg Moeller are influences for me here.

Lifton writes about a "protean self," contrasted to a "fundamentalist self," a person who has a shapeshifting quality, changing their identity frequently: www.amazon.com/Protean-Self-Human-Resilience-Fragmentation/dp/0465064213

Moeller writes about "genuine pretending," contrasted to the myth of authenticity (finding your real self then corresponding to it): https://youtu.be/3hbD0czJ3Rk

So, I think having a protean self solves for holding tightly to identity, and engaging in genuine pretending online, affords to find the others; I am sympathetic to Venkat's Stocism-as-a-larp criticism for this very reason. I think the challenge is audience capture, which might really be "identity capture." I think there are "audience release" moves being collectively discovered, one being learning the language of vibes and creating vibe tribes. Relevant entries:

https://lessfoolish.substack.com/p/audience-release-audience-capture

https://lessfoolish.substack.com/p/meme-to-vibe-a-philosophical-report

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Aug 23, 2023Liked by Peter N Limberg

I like that. I also like that the ideas of the protean self and genuine pretending feel playful, which, in my experience, is often an under-appreciated aspect of wisdom, at least in the academy.

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Peter N Limberg

You’s a true gangsta Peter! - EK

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Aug 31, 2023Liked by Peter N Limberg

You’s a true gangsta Peter! - EK

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Cool

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Aug 23, 2023Liked by Peter N Limberg

Damn, this is good thinking and writing.

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There are professional philosophers? Guess there are professional dogwatchers and godtalkers, so it's not too surprising. Everybody's gotta make a living somehow!

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"Never call yourself a philosopher, nor talk a great deal among the unlearned about theorems, but act conformably to them." - Epictetus

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Eliminate the ninnies and the twits.

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